My Experience with Cartrawler (via BudgetAir.ca): A SCAM to AVOID!

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  • POST #1:

This blog is meant to expose (an alleged car rental company) Cartrawler (and their agent here in Canada, Budget Air) so that my fellow Canadians and citizens of the world get aware of this scam company.

Through Budgetair.ca website I was offered a competitive car rental offer for a Hyundai Sonata 2013. It seemed perfect for my trip to Istanbul, Turkey, and I placed a reservation online.

As soon as the reservation was placed online, the whole rental payment was instantly deducted from my credit card.  Upon my arrival to IST airport, I had to call the car rental agent there (CIRCULAR CAR HIRE, I was told they will be waiting for us, but this was not the case). Then they took us (a baby, my wife and I) to the road next to the airport and we were asked to wait till the car arrives. After about 25  minutes a small Renault car arrived. The car was incompatible with the reservation placed online. Further, I was given the business card of the agent as well as a filled-out rental agreement except for my signature.

Upon checking the car I found out that the four tires are literally worn out. Further, the car was dirty from inside with strong cigarette odor. Moreover, the air condition was not working properly, it was merely a fan. I refused to sign the rental agreement and I requested a car in a good condition. I was told there are no other cars available and I can simply cancel the rental with a full refund. I didn’t sign the contract and it stayed with me. I also cancelled the rental.

I contacted Budgetair.ca and requested a full refund. I was told that they cannot do anything about it and I have to get in touch with WWW.CARTRAWLER.COM. I did so and I was asked to fill out  some complaint form online (http://www.cartrawlersupport.com/contact-us) along with all supportive documents.

The online form seems not to function properly all the time, and whenever  I try to submit any message online it gives the error message shown in Fig. 1 below. I managed to search the web and found the email address of Cartrawler (ccm@cartrawler.com and customercare@ccm@cartrawler.com).

Error Message Received When Try to Send a Complaint thru CARTRAWLER's Complaints Handling System
Fig. 1: Error Message Received When Try to Send a Complaint thru CARTRAWLER’s Complaints Handling System

During my search I also learned there are tremendous complaints about Cartrawler and how they’re so good at doing their best to rip off their customers. For example, please see:

http://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-g1-i12567-k5882290-Cartrawler-Road_Trips.html

http:// http://www.eyeonspain.com/forums/posts-long-12648.aspxlawpundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/cartrawler-alleged-car-rental-service.html

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=4154553&page=1

In this blog, I will share with you all my communication with Cartrawler and I will expose them to you. Eventually, I will use the documentation provided here to lodge official complaints, both on the federal level as well as the provincial level, against both Cartrawler and Budgetair.

I will also take this to CBC.

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POST # 2

In this post I show the initial emails I sent to Cartrawler and the responses I got.

EMAIL SENT

From: REMOVED
Date: Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Subject: Car Rental (TR346312650) Cancellation and Request for Full Refund
To: CarTrawler Support <customercare@cartrawler.com>

Hi,

I am writing in regards to car rental reservation no. TR346312650.
Upon my arrival to IST airport, I was provided with a Renault car in a very bad condition. First, this car is not comparable to what I have been told when I placed this reservation. I was told that the car will be a hyundai sonata or similar.
Instead, I was given a very dusty car from inside. SO worn out tires. USELESS Air Condtion. It is essentially just a fan.
I did not accept this car and I requested to cancel the reservation. I wasted two hours on this issue for nothing!!!
So please, refund me back the payment I made online.
Thanks.

KE

EMAIL RECEIVED (FOUR DAYS LATER)
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From: Cartrawler Customer Service <csnoreply@cartrawler.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Subject: Message from CarTrawler Customer Care, Ref: 500-1207327
To: REMOVED
Dear KE,

CarTrawler Ref: 500-1207327,

Thank you for taking the time to contact CarTrawler. We regret any inconvenience you have experienced and assure you that we are anxious to retain you as a satisfied customer.

Our Customer Care Team will be reviewing the information you have sent us and conducting an investigation to resolve this matter.

In order for us to investigate a query, it is usually necessary for us to have a copy of any documentation relevant to your case, such as:

  • The final invoice or rental agreement for the rental (these documents are normally provided at the rental desk).
  • a copy of your paper bank statement
  • a copy of any receipts/ documents/ photographs that are relevant to your case
  • Your flight details including airline and flight number (for airport pick-ups)

To provide any of the above relevant documentation or information, please go to:

http://www.cartrawler.com/portal/postcasedetail.asp?case_caseId=430369&EmailAddress=

Here, you will be able to update your query, attach documents to support your case and check the status of your case. Please note that the quicker we receive your documentation, the better we will be able to assist you so we would really appreciate it if you could provide it at your earliest convenience.

As we must refer to the Car Rental Agents during the course of an investigation, it can take up to 20 working days to resolve a case. However, we will do our best to provide a satisfactory resolution before this deadline. A dedicated Customer Care Representative will be in contact with you throughout the course of the investigation to give you regular updates on how your case is progressing.

Thank you for giving us the opportunity to assist you.

Kindest Regards,

Martin Cornelissen

CarTrawler Customer Care

http://www.cartrawler.com

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ANOTHER EMAIL AFTER AROUND ONE WEEK

from:  Cartrawler Customer Service <csnoreply@cartrawler.com>
to:  REMOVED
date:  Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:46 AM
subject:  Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 500-1207327
mailed-by:  cartrawler.com

Dear KE,

CarTrawler Ref: 500-1207327,

Firstly, let me offer my sincerest apologies for the inconvenience caused to you by  the fact that you were offered a car in bad condition.

I am happy to confirm that, having investigated your case fully, I have now proposed a refund of € 414.48 to our Finance Department.

Below, please find my calculation of the refund amount:

Online cost of your rental:

527.52

Number of rental days:

14

Number of days retained:

3

Cost of retained days of rental:

113.04

Cancellation fee:

0.00

Total amount of cancellation charges:

113.04

Amount to be refunded:

414.48

At the same time, I would like to explain in a bit more detail why this situation has occurred. Please be advised, that according to our cancellation policy, if the booking is cancelled at the rental desk there is no refund due. However, as a goodwill gesture, we refunded you your placement fee less three days.

As soon as this refund is approved by our Finance Department, they will email you with a confirmation that it has been processed. Please allow between 5-10 working days for this to happen. In the unlikely event that the refund is not approved, I will contact you with further details.

I’d like to apologise again. I can imagine how inconvenient this situation must have been for you and I do hope that you will accept our sincere apologies for this experience.

If you would like to discuss this on the telephone, please do not hesitate to contact me on my direct number +35312183879 (available during business hours 09.00hrs / 17.00hrs).

Kindest Regards

Alicja Kisio

+35312183879

CarTrawler Customer Care

http://www.cartrawler.com

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POST # 3

Here I refuse the offer of a partial refund and I request a full reimbursement. REPLIES THAT follow from CARTRAWLER are included.

From: KE <removed@ieee.org>
Date: Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: [#UJP-248-12669]: Please refund me my money!
To: feedback@budgetair.com, cs@budgetair.com
Cc: CarTrawler Support <customercare@cartrawler.com>
I wasn’t aware of Cartrawler and I made the car reservation through your website. Being a Canadian citizen dealing with a Canadian company, I trusted you guys and I made the payment in full through your website. Please see the response I received from Cartrawler frowarded below.
It is so disturbing that instead of compensating me for wasting my time and providing me with literally UNSAFE car to drive, Cartrawler decided to deduct EUR 113.04 from the payment I made through you guys online. This is totally UNACCEPTABLE! I would like my payment to be refunded in FULL.
This is not cancellation of a reservation as Cartrawler pointed out in the email below, this is a problem of Cartrawler! This is not my mistake, this is Cartrawler’s mistake and I should even be compensated for wasting my time!!!! If you guys cannot guranttee your customers the cars as advertised nor even SAFE cars to drive, then please STOP misleading people! I used to rent cars from Budget, Thrifty, etc. and I had never seen this kind of treatment!!!
It is extremely disappointing! When placed reservation online through budgetrair website, I was told that I will be provided with a certain car in a good and SAFE condition. Instead, I am given UNSAFE car with completely worn out tires, no AC, so dirty, etc.! Who should be compensated for wasting more than two hours of my time in the airport on this issue!
I will not accept more than full refund for this, otherwise, I will know where to complain upon my arrival to Canada, both on the federal level and the provincial level!
Since I placed the booking online in Canada through your website, I thought that I am making the reservation through you. Accordingly, please intercede with these guys and help me to get reimbursed in full! I am not asking for any favors from you guys, this is my right as a customer of yours!

KE

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From: Cartrawler Customer Service <csnoreply@cartrawler.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Subject: Message from CarTrawler Customer Care, Ref: 453-1217225
To: REMOVED
Dear KE,
CarTrawler Ref: 453-1217225,Thank you for your correspondence.I am sorry to learn that you were not satisfied with our previous response. I would like to stress that we always try to find a solution in line with the Terms & Conditions of rental agreement.However, taking your last comments into consideration, I have contacted colleagues at Circular Car Hire Turkey to find a better solution on this and will be in touch as soon as they get back to me.We will endeavour to resolve your queries within a maximum of 20 working days however I will do my best to offer a resolution prior to this deadline. I will be getting back to you with updates throughout that time.
Kindest Regards
Alicja Kisio+35312183879
CarTrawler Customer Carehttp://www.cartrawler.com
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After around one more week, here comes the BIG RIP OFF!
From: Cartrawler Customer Service <csnoreply@cartrawler.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:47 AM
Subject: Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 453-1217225
To: REMOVED
Dear KE,
CarTrawler Ref: 453-1217225,
I regret to inform you that unfortunately our Finance Department rejected the request for a refund that I have proposed.The comment we have received from our Finance Department is that in the meantime the rental agent got back to us with the information that they have the rental marked as a no show. We have been advised that they waited two hours, but unfortunately, you did not show up. Please be advised that as per the agreed terms and conditions, we are unable to offer a refund of the deposit in case you do not collect your vehicle at the desk:“If you make a booking but do not collect the vehicle, no funds paid will be reimbursed.”Therefore, unfortunately, we will not be able to offer a refund on this occasion.I would like to sincerely apologise for having misadvised you about a possibility of a refund on this occasion and the inconvenience this must have caused.
I do realise that this is not the outcome that you were hoping for on this occasion, but I hope you can understand our position on that matter.If you would like to provide any additional information or documentation, please go to:http://www.cartrawler.com/portal/postcasedetail.asp?case_caseId=436356&EmailAddress=Here, you will be able to update your query, attach documents to support your case and check the status of your case.Alternatively, if you would like to discuss this on the telephone, please do not hesitate to contact me on my direct number +35312183879 (available during business hours 09.00hrs / 17.00hrs).
Kindest Regards,
Alicja Kisio
CarTrawler Customer Care
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MY RESPONSE
From: REMOVED
Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 453-1217225
To: Cartrawler Customer Service <csnoreply@cartrawler.com>, feedback@budgetair.com, cs@budgetair.com, csca <csca@budgetair.ca>Dear Sir or Madam,

It saddens me to see how professional your agents in Istanbul are at deceiving people.
What you mentioned in your email about me not showing up is absolutely false! Who am I dealing with?!!!
I met in Istanbul airport with Mr. Ugur Ozdemir. He gave me his business card. Please see the attachment! The only means for me to get this business card, is to meet Mr Ozdemir in person upon my arrival to Istanbul airport!!!
This nullifies your claims about the contract agreement! Upon rejecting to receive the car given its miserable condition, Mr. Ozdemir told me in person that I can receive a full refund without any problems!!!
 It saddens me when you are telling me in your email that I am a liar!
Once again, I renew my request for a full refund and I request an apology for the misleading information you provided in your earlier email.
Front Side of Business CAR
Front Side of Business CAR
Back Side of Business CAR
Back Side of Business CAR
KE
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When received no reply after around four days, I sent an other email, and I attached some other evidences,
From: REMOVED
Date: Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Subject: Fwd: Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 453-1217225
To: CarTrawler Support <customercare@cartrawler.com>, cs@budgetair.com, csca <csca@budgetair.ca>, feedback@budgetair.comHi,

I attach here the evidences which prove that I met your agent in person at IST airport.
This nullifies the claim of ‘no show’ mentioned in your email!!!
The attached car rental agreement was filled up by your agent in IST airport and I refused to sign it upon checking the car and finding out about its unsafe condition to drive! !
The name of your agent who I met in person and filled up this agreement is given in the attached business card, given to me by him in IST airport!!!
I once again renew my request for a full refund of  my payment. Further, you owe me an apology for telling a misleading information in your email.
I will not let me my  money be taken like this, and if I am not refunded in full, I will take my case to the news papers and the media in Canada as soon as I get back home in 10 days. In Canada, we take such issues seriously. I will  let everyone know about my ordeal with you guys!! I have additional evidences that make a strong case!
So sad to see this kind of treatment!
KE
Unsiged CAR RENTAL AGREEMENT GIVEN TO ME BY CIRCULAR CAR HIRE IN IST AIRPORT
Unsiged CAR RENTAL AGREEMENT GIVEN TO ME BY CIRCULAR CAR HIRE IN IST AIRPORT
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POST # 4:
After almost one month, here is the reply I received from CAR TRAWLER:
———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Cartrawler Customer Service <csnoreply@cartrawler.com>
Date: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Subject: Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 453-1217225
To: REMOVED
Dear KE,
CarTrawler Ref: 453-1217225,
Thank you very much for getting back to me.We have received the documentation you sent. However, the dates on the document you have sent on do not match the pick up and drop off dates in our system. Please be advised, that we are not able to investigate the problem further untill we receive the correct documentation.To provide the documentation or information we requested, please go to:http://www.cartrawler.com/portal/postcasedetail.asp?case_caseId=436356&EmailAddress=Here, you will be able to update your query, attach documents to support your case and check the status of your case.I hope to hear from you shortly.
Kindest Regards
Alicja Kisio
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THIS IS MY RESPONSE
From: REMOVED
Date: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 453-1217225
To: CarTrawler Support <customercare@cartrawler.com>, CarTrawler Support <ccm@cartrawler.com>, csca <csca@budgetair.ca>, cs@budgetair.com
Hi,
In the attached contract, there are two dates provided:
One is under Car to Be Checked in At : (4.6. 2013).
And the other is called the Check Out Date: 22.06.2013.This is my arrival date to IST airport (22.06.2013). Please find my attached ticket which confirms that I arrived on this date to Istanbul. Please remember that I never signed this contract nor I checked its authenticity due to the bad condition of the car as I previously explained. I don’t know what the first date given above means. You better ask your agent, CIRCULAR CAR HIRE!!!Look at the Check-Out Fuel and the Check-Out Damage Notes at the end of the contract! This gives clues on what the Check-Out Date given above means! How on earth I will chenk in a car at the same time I check a car out from CIRCULAR CAR Hire! This is INSANE (June 22 is my arrival date to IST airport)!What I care about here is that I was physically given this document by your agent in IST airport upon my arrival on June 22. Further, this proves that I showed up in the airport and I personally met your agent CIRCULAR CAR HIRE, which nullifies their claims of NO SHOW mentioned in your earlier correspondence!!!I never left Canada before June 17th as shown in the attached ticket. I am working with Memorial University and everyone here knows this.Also if I happen to have any other booking on June 4th  (as claimed by you) with my name as shown in this paper, I SUPPOSE you won’t have a problem locating it on your system, don’t you??? !!!The way I am being treated by you and by your agent in IST airport is completely unacceptable! I am now in Canada and I am in the process of lodging official complaints against you guys and against Budget Air. I can assure you that I won’t let my money be taken out this way.
KE
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AND HERE THEY REPLY AGAIN
From: Cartrawler Customer Service <csnoreply@cartrawler.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:03 AM
Subject: Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 453-1217225
To: REMOVED
Dear KE,
CarTrawler Ref: 453-1217225,Thank you very much for getting back to me.Please be advised that according to our system, the pick up date  was 22.06.13 and return date 06.07.13. Unfortunately, the rental agreement you provided us with is regarding different pick up and return dates. Please provide us with rental agreement wich includes the booked dates.To provide the documentation or information we requested, please go to:http://www.cartrawler.com/portal/postcasedetail.asp?case_caseId=436356&EmailAddress=Here, you will be able to update your query, attach documents to support your case and check the status of your case.I hope to hear from you shortly.
Kindest Regards
Alicja Kisio
+35312183879CarTrawler Customer Carehttp://www.cartrawler.com———————————————————————————————————————

AND HERE IS MY REPLY AGAIN (STILL WAITING FOR RESPONSE);

From: REMOVED
Date: Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Update from CarTrawler Customer Care – Ref: 453-1217225
To: CarTrawler Support <customercare@cartrawler.com>, CarTrawler Support <ccm@cartrawler.com>, cs@budgetair.com, csca <csca@budgetair.ca>

Hi,
In a PLAIN ENGLISH, this piece of paper (unsigned contract, along with the business card) were given to me by your agent in IST airport upon my arrival on June 22, 2013.Before this date I was in Dresden for a couple of days for a conference, and before Dresden I was in St. John’s, Canada.
This is  shown plainly in the air tickets I sent you. So it’s ridiculous for me to rent a car with my name while I am not in IST and return it the same day I arrive to IST from Dresden (i.e., on June 22), as you claim.
I am not obliged to provide you with any contracts as I did not accept to sign any contracts given the miserable unsafe condition of the car.In an earlier email, you said that, according to your ‘thorough investigation’, I didn’t show up at IST airport and thus you will ‘rip me off the whole payment made online’.
Here, I provided you with the documents that were given to me upon my arrival. This is the sole purpose of me providing you with these documents. The business card I gave you also shows the name and the contact information of the person we met upon our arrival. He talked with me and my wife for at least 25 minutes while we were asked to wait for their car to arrive!!! Yet, you are telling me I am lying and I never showed up in IST airport!!!
This entirely nullifies your claims of now show and simply shows that you guys are doing your best to rip off your customers, which is so sad.Please give a call to your trust-able agent, CIRCULAR CAR HIRE, and ask them what these dates mean. In the ‘unsigned’ contract paper it does not say that the car was checked in at a particular date. It says ‘TO be Checked In. However, the space provided for the ‘Check In Date’ is left blank. Probably, this version of contract is the agent’s version and was given to me by mistake. This can be understood through simply looking at CHECK OUT FUEL. and the Check Out Damage. Why it is marked there?!Again, it is not my job to explain to you what these dates mean. I have no means to obtain both this paper and the business card of CIRCULAR CAR HIRE without meeting them in IST airport while I am physically in Istanbul airport. I never been to Turkey for the last  three years except on June 22 2013, the date of my arrival.
This shows that your agent in IST airport has serious problems pertaining to an utter negligence in treating their customers. So please work these problems out with them.

I am not begging from you here, this is my right. My money is ripped off for no reason whatsoever. I won’t allow this to happen. Not only that, I promise you that I will use all means available to let people here in Canada know about my experience with you.

KE